Q:
Does the fact that satan had entered Judas Body.. have any bearing on it.. we see that scenario And then latter on we see Saul being literally changed by the holy spirit.. Neither one.. had a thing to do with it.
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These “Seeds” are Very Real
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As far as Satan’s removal legally, this is the first prophecy stated in Eden, very important:
***(Genesis 3:15) . . .And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.”
We know Jesus actually became the righteous seed in the flesh:
***(Hebrews 2:14-16) . . .Therefore, since the “young children” are sharers of blood and flesh, he also similarly partook of the same things, that through his death he might bring to nothing the one having the means to cause death, that is, the Devil; 15 and [that] he might emancipate all those who for fear of death were subject to slavery all through their lives. 16 For he is really not assisting angels at all, but he is assisting Abraham’s seed.
John furthers the fact that this is a real seed:
***(1 John 3:9) 9 Everyone who has been born from God does not carry on sin, because His reproductive seed remains in such one, and he cannot practice sin, because he has been born from God.
So given that we know Jesus was the first “new creation” for he retains no Adamic flesh or sin, and became the pattern in all regards for his brotherhood in the Kingdom Covenant, the New Covenant:
***(Galatians 6:15-16) . . .a new creation [is something]. 16 And all those who will walk orderly by this rule of conduct, upon them be peace and mercy, even upon the Israel of God.
The point being the righteous seed, and the evil seed are very real, but beyond human’s full understanding of course:
***(1 John 3:10-12) . . .The children of God and the children of the Devil are evident by this fact: Everyone who does not carry on righteousness does not originate with God, neither does he who does not love his brother.
The John takes it back to Eden in meaning:
***11 For this is the message which YOU have heard from the beginning, that we should have love for one another; 12 not like Cain, who originated with the wicked one and slaughtered his brother. . . .
He also pointed out Cain’s origin.
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So a man like Saul, is a picture of many people on earth, they are practicing the works of Satan’s evil seed, but they are not his seed in reality, they must be called to their true destiny.
Eventually God will call out men and women who must repent, and like Saul, when they “see the light” in their own way, they abandon the former course, as Paul did, they clearly become to realize Jesus voice, and what this all means, it is very real.
We know also Jesus made it very real, when he confronted some of that evil seed at the temple:
***(John 8:43-44) . . .Why is it YOU do not know what I am speaking? Because YOU cannot listen to my word. 44 YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. . . .
So we see, they could not “hear” his word. We also know these are beyond redemption (we cannot determine that as Jesus could), because Jesus and John both tied them directly related to Satan’s seed:
***(Matthew 12:34) . . .Offspring of vipers, how can YOU speak good things, when YOU are wicked? . . .
***(Matthew 23:33) . . .“Serpents, offspring of vipers, how are YOU to flee from the judgment of Gehenna?
***(Matthew 12:32-34) . . .but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come. 33 “Either YOU people make the tree fine and its fruit fine or make the tree rotten and its fruit rotten; for by its fruit the tree is known. 34 Offspring of vipers, how can YOU speak good things, when YOU are wicked? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
So that’s why the truth goes out:
***(Matthew 23:33-34) 33 “Serpents, offspring of vipers, how are YOU to flee from the judgment of Gehenna? 34 For this reason, here I am sending forth to YOU prophets and wise men and public instructors.. . .
The primary evil seed and righteous seed are on each side of mankind as a whole trying to get through further.
Satan’s “ministry”, and Jesus ministry both are aimed at targeting the “seed” of ALL mankind today, a large population. So Satan tries to infect everyone with evil, hatreds, lies, greed, selfishness.
Jesus works against all these things, so that he can recover willing people to be perfected by the final blessings which are due to arrive even more fully through the seed Jesus, and his brothers.
***(1 John 3:8) . . .He who carries on sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, namely, to break up the works of the Devil.
So the good news, is God and Jesus truth for combating the viral seed of Satan, and we ourselves cannot tell by looking who can be recovered, and who cannot, but the message of repentance goes out to all, because we must refute and walk away from Satan’s works. God will recover his sheep from this Satan born evil mess.
As Genesis 3:15 states, the earthly seed will be removed in time, and the spiritual seed, Satan will be removed as the progenitor of that evil seed, Heb2:14; Rev20:10, after the 1000 years.
Armageddon will act much like the flood, to terminate Satan’s evil earthly seed, before the final recovery of ALL of God’s people in the 1000 year reign.
At that time we know Satan will attempt again, to “father” perfected humans as he did Adam, by infesting the flesh, through spiritual sin which leads to fleshly sin. That will also be terminated, Rev20:10.
So, we must all take this very serious for it will have to continue in the process which God through the bible has indeed clearly outlined for our recovery.
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So it appears Judas, was more than just spirit possessed:
(John 17:12). . .When I was with them I used to watch over them on account of your own name which you have given me; and I have kept them, and not one of them is destroyed except the son of destruction, in order that the scripture might be fulfilled.
He was a son of destruction, a picked mole allowed to enter Jesus intimate group to fulfill scripture, and teach a pattern about the seed of Satan.
Satan has a progeny:
(2 Thessalonians 2:3-4) 3 Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition . . .
[to the truth]
We know Saul resisted for a while, but eventually he forsook Satan’s ways, which are the heart of him developing his seed, in common mankind.
All the bad things are originally from Satan, transmitted through the sin, to Adamic man, but from them, some are recovered.
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Q:
I have a question for you.
JWs think that Jesus was referring to a world war in his end time prophesy in 1914.
So how come he did not mean a world war in the first century?
A:
Because it was a pattern of judgment, that as far as the bible is concerned, it was a world war.
1. Though God was the ultimate recipient of Jesus sacrifice, the evil fake Jews (Rev2:9) of Jesus day, the ones who fought against the plain truth, made a collusion with Satan that we can only gather from circumstantial evidence. It was an assassination of God’s son, for something on the Satanic side:
(Mark 11:17-18) . . .But YOU have made it a cave of robbers.” 18 And the chief priests and the scribes heard it, and they began to seek how to destroy him. . .
Jesus was cutting into their black market rackets of money worship NOT God’s worship at the temple.
2. The Romans were then used to work the will of the evil fake Jews who were already shown in SOME of Israel (not all), to be Satan’s seed: John 8:44.
3. So this was the exact same pattern of WW1, the evil fake “Jew” bankers, manipulating a gentile government (US/UK), for a huge war racket.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/T23OBVNK3ES4763K8
Now this is NOT an anti-semite statement for Arabs are Semites as well, or racist, I have nothing against Jews, Arabs or Persians or Swiss, Russian and Germans for that matter, this is a picture of Satan targeting a national fleshly group (Jews), to mastermind the end of the world in Great Tribulation, also foretold at that time by Jesus.
It’s real, because in this last phase if God did not cut it short, no flesh would be saved, it will be horrific in due time, and Satan will seat himself as the Gog, of Magog for the finality, of what only much hard work of the masses, and a lot of money to motivate it could have built.
So the evil element of the Jews, were Satan’s foremost operative seed, the destroyed God’s son, and brought more doom on themselves, and eventually, all of mankind. The never stop, until stopped by God.
4. So today, the poor Romans ended up transmitting that seed of banking mastermind money worshippers to be. Many also escaped before and during the siege, but it is not hard to research the origins of Jew banking, and where it is today, by that continued collusion with satan, and alignment with Britain and American gentiles, it has in two world wars, spread everywhere, and it will be the financing of the Great tribulation, so one pattern, is replicating globally, also fulfilling in striking detail the prophecy of this by Jesus, now at a global scale, again by huge financial collapse as a pre-requisite for global war.
This global tribulation though, is exponentially thousands of time more potentially devastating than world war 2. That’s what the demon agenda has been from the beginning, extinction of man, and the destruction of the earth.
But God is going to cut them off. Rev11:18:
(Revelation 11:18) . . .But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.”
So Jesus showed a collusion between Jews and Romans, which turned deadly for the son of God.
That system suffered a judgment because of it, but also transmitted the core evil globally through the Roman system, which Britain, then America inherited, it’s progressively advanced by Satan through human systems since Eden.
This is easily researched and seen in the Rothschild global banking system example (1694-1914), and it’s financing of global war (1914+) to bring about another “Zion” influenced judgment on poor mankind who is duped into this predation system of “government”, in a partnership with government, an extreme example of the bank-money-government war rackets global, as a pattern of operation.
This particular element of fake “Jews”, which we can’t tell by looking, are in the foremost powers of the seed of Satan at some point, and the gentile Anglo-American powers as well, suckered by power and money worship, are the vehicle of the Great tribulation’s final birth globally.
To much to be mere coincidence to those who research this relationship.
