How the UN, Illuminati, Secret Societies, etc, Relate to Wildbeast2, Revelation 13:11
(Various Questions and comments)
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Claim:
Your idea of the illuminati and the political views that you have with the WT have never printed or adhered to.
Response:
I have 1 ” political” view, the art and science of Government is the Kingdom of God, the rest are analysis and error ridden human systems with numbered days to be replaced by God’s Kingdom assured, Dan2:44; Psalm110; Joel3:9;Zeph3:9, Psalm2, Rev16:16, etc.
Yes they have commented on this generically, as “secret societies” in many nations, with many goals and objectives unknown. But they do not term it Illuminati, the closest word in that history of the Illuminati, which coincidentally was also coined around the same time is called Zionism.
One of the last references of that term is in 1999;
*** g99 10/22 p. 15 The Danube—If Only It Could Talk! ***As for ideas, The New Encyclopædia Britannica calls turn-of-the-century Vienna “a fertile breeding ground for ideas that—for good or bad—were to shape the modern world.” Among the individuals who were, to some degree, influenced by the years that they spent there are Theodor Herzl, the founder of Zionism; Sigmund Freud, the father of psychoanalysis; and Adolf Hitler, who needs no further description.
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IMO: The reason? ‘Zionism’, ‘Illuminatism’ and Masonism are the same thing (almost), ‘Illuminati Zionist’ is the older occult Judaic form of Satanism, ‘Illuminati Mason’ is the Gentile version of the same form of hierarchal Devil worship, “Masons”, in the non-Judaic line, the xtians, etc. As you can see it turns into a quagmire of speculation, we can sum it up that it is not in line with Jesus Kingdom, and leave it at that seeing there is plenty of evidence something is developing. No need to get stuck in the history of the “masons” to see it also relates to the Tower of Babel’s symbolism, united human systems opposed to God, controlled by demons, Eph6:12.
This also related to the older ‘Masonic’ versions in an even older reference to the Tower of Babel’s architects predating the Jews, BUT in the lineage of Abraham who also pre-dates the Jews of course. This is only one of the reasons the ‘bottom’ has no idea what the top is up to, the “Secret Society” (A pact).
(The Jewish Satanist is the oldest form of “Illuminati”, because through Abraham’s lineage, is where both seeds, Satan’s and “The Woman” will converge for battle, the Babylonian years definitely finished the inner system of demonic influence as Jesus also showed by his recorded experiences with them, John 8:44, Rev2:9)
IMO: True “Illuminati” predate the Jews, but delivered the “Pharisaic” Satan worship which was the active Satanic infiltration that brought about the destruction of Jerusalem under the Babylonians (passed on virally), and by the Romans (passed on virally as well), so in today’s terms, those “Jews who say they are Jews but are NOT” (Rev2:9), are the “Illuminati” or “Satanist” element inflitration (John8:44), before that term “Illuminati” was coined of course, they are Satanists to simplify the source.
So why not in the Watchtower?
As you may probably guess, there is no reason to draw people to this in an official document of the WTS, it is TOO conspiratorial, and TOO steeped in in-depth occult linkages, so once you know this is a historical fact, I’d recommend we leave it be. Make no mistake though, this is not a conspiracy theory because it is done in broad daylight, and has many historical paper trails in micro-histories especially apparent in the last 100 years.
But know that this is NOT a new teaching, it is history, the terminologies are new, Satanism is the common denominator.
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A SPECULATIVE SCENARIO
Yet, let’s imagine, lf I was sitting around with a certain couple members of the GB, and we were having a relaxed glass of wine, and we started talking about the truth as we would and we started talking about history as usual, and we pulled out a 1 dollar bill, and I said “so what do you think about the ‘Novus Ordo Seclorum’” here on the back of the dollar bill???
I would be the one learning about what they know because due to prophecy and history being interrelated, they have been on the case 30, 40, 50+ years longer than me. They studied it to understand HISTORICALLY that those two horns of a “lamb”, that speaks as a “dragon”, are indeed those two GROUPS (Also the ones behind the visible 7th head governments (US/UK), the Elite Globalists represented in the Anglo-American world power’s elite network). Even the symbolism of the “Masonic” element, the pyramid/tower, is “capped” by the enlightening eye of “illumination” at the top, even the dollar bill logo has a hierarchal symbolism, ‘masonic’ (material) capped by illumination (supra-material/spiritual): (This fits well with two key bible scriptures, Eph6:12 demon heavenly governmental systems, and their influential effects on a human system Rev16:13-16.)
The Speculation on Wildbeast2′s (Rev13:11) membership within the international globalist Anglo-American system:
Group 1. (Not a horn): The “Zion Temple” version is with the UK Illuminati base, the embryonic egg cell (The Pharisaic order we are speaking of: John8:44, Rev2:9) coddled there since the days of the Romans who delivered the Satanists to that Island with the Roman “Father of the British Navy” whose later naval system brought the Rothschild “boat” over in 1694, after MANY former intrigues in the “Old World”; Europe, Asia, the “New World” was set upon. (Notice this is that Zionism, or Old Testament base blasphemy)
Group 2. (Not a horn): The “Mason Temple” version in the US, by lack of seniority, and, the replication of that cell, the second horn among other things, is the gentile version “The Kingdom of God”, or New Testament base blasphemy)
That’s why that WildBeast2 from the sea (Rev13:11), comes from an established beast of earth (7headed Wild Beast1; Rev13:1), and promotes the “image of the beast” (Rev13:14), and misleads mankind.
(Revelation 13:14) . . .And it misleads those who dwell on the earth… while it tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast.
And there you have? The New World Order, ‘Novus Ordo Seclorum’”.
No need to print terms like Illuminati, or Skull and Bones, or Masons, etc, because it boils down to Satanism in the two primary forms of Jews and gentiles, and all these names are very new and add to the confusion, steeped in conspiratorial controversy.
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Claim:
While you post your view of world affairs which is not shown in any WT articles you show your not teaching what the WT says, but rather you view.
Response:
It’s based on a known prophetic pattern which Peter said would be present in the end:
(2 Peter 1:19-21) 19 Consequently we have the prophetic word [made] more sure; and YOU are doing well in paying attention to it as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until day dawns and a daystar rises, in YOUR hearts. 20 For YOU know this first, that no prophecy of Scripture springs from any private interpretation. 21 For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit.
That’s why we have a GB. They are wiser than I, for they have looked for many more years, in a more intense fashion, into “all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge carefully concealed in” Jesus Christ. It is not good, when dealing with EVERYBODY on the planet that will be reached, to go off into every new term and word (which we know are representative of something very real) that pops up to try to describe but one word: Satan’s form’s of worship, and they boil down to two branches of humanity, the Jews and the Gentiles. Why throw in the 50 terms that describe that base system like illuminati, masons, skull&bones, NWO, etc when all they are are religious orders like Zoroastrians, and Zionists, and Voodoo and Wicca etc etc etc.
So I am not teaching my view, I am preaching my experiences, my understanding, my ministry, and yet it is not mine, because without God, Jesus, the Bible, the little flock remnant, the brother sheep, even the secular histories, I would know nothing.
When preaching, and when dealing with all the terms Satan throws out there to try to cover the fact that he exists, by pointing out all the many many many many places he exists, I have to connect the buckshot Satan shoots out, to show in today’s terms, that what we see happening today with all these terms, are related to the one hiding under them all, Satan.
Yet they ALL relate EXPLICITLY to the Watchtower, because they ALL relate Explicitly to Daniel and Revelation, and Revelation even more so.
That’s why the WTS and GB have no reason to say the demon angels of Genesis 6 are “aliens”, anyone who knows a little about either history can plainly see that those two masters of flight interfacing with earth and humankind, are obviously related to the same persons (spirit) and to the same strategy confusion, division and domination.
That’s why the WTS does not have to talk about it, in the ministry, 1 on 1, the brothers will elaborate as need be, as is happening now.
You know we are talking about the same thing, the NWO, the aliens, the UN or whatever they all try to hide as we don’t know, but they must face God Almighty AND Jesus Christ at Har-Magedon, and those two don’t hide in subterfuge and camouflage.
Jehovah and Jesus are real and the owners of this earth and universe, and all the confusion heaped on them, and all the instigators of that confusion in demon and human satan seed must be terminated to the appointed second in the stream of time which these weak enemies are subject to.
Neither Jehovah or Jesus will EVER recant to weakling liars, if it takes 7Billion years to get to them, they WILL get to them.
In this case it only takes 7000 years, LOL.
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A speculative exercise for Jehovah’s witnesses and others.
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This is formative but with much historical evidence now coming to more accessibility more quickly on the Internet, yet contained in secular physical libraries as well.
(This is not attempting a new teaching, or to refute the GB, this is adding detail to elements represented in the dual power structure of the now existing Anglo-American world power, this wild-beast, but detached from the seven headed for very good reason)
The wildbeast(2) with the dual lamb horns, and dragon speak, is what I am speculating on here:
1. Why is it singled out in free-roaming fashion apart from the seven headed beast it springs from? Because it is a super-soveriegnty based in the Anglo-American UK/US power, but is composed of elites with no national-sovereign encumbrances.
2. It appears slightly later than the seventh head of wildbeast(1), but is instrumental in bringing about the UN, from the banking system it operates in tangent with another occult group.
3. It empowers, “gives breath to” the image of the beast, so in effect it is the power-system empoweing the UN, as the 8th King of Revelation.
4. It is a globalism, “new world order”, one world government Satan speaker, the false-prophet.
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With two horns of a “lamb”, the beast that speaks as a “dragon”, are indeed those two GROUPS shown as powers (Also the ones behind the visible 7th head governments (US/UK; Anglo-America), representing the Elite Globalists represented in the Anglo-American world power’s elite network of weapons, money and devil worshipers at the highest earthly levels):
Power Group 1. Blasphemy 1:
Blasphemy 1: The “Zion Temple” version is with the UK Illuminati base (“Jewish”), the embryonic egg cell (The Pharisaic order we are speaking of: John8:44, Rev2:9) coddled there since the days of the Romans who delivered the Satanists to that Island with the Roman “Father of the British Navy” whose later naval system brought the Rothschild “boat” over in 1694, after MANY former intrigues in the “Old World”; Europe, Asia, the “New World” was set upon. (Notice this is that Zionism, or Old Testament base blasphemy)
(Notice this is not an attack on the common Jewish people, this appears to be a group who uses old testament prophecy for their own purposes, fake Jews, rev2:9)
Power Group 2. Blasphemy 2:
The “Mason Temple” version in the US (Anglo) Occult governance system, by lack of seniority, and, the replication of that cell, and the second horn among other things, is the gentile version of “The Kingdom of God”, or New Testament base blasphemy)
That’s why that WildBeast2 from the earth (Rev13:11), comes from an established beast of earth (7headed Wild Beast1; Rev13:1), and empowers by “breath” and promotes the “image of the beast” (UN)(Rev13:14), and misleads mankind.
WildBeast2 and Wildbeast3 ‘Image’:
(Revelation 13:14). . .And it misleads those who dwell on the earth… while it tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast.
And there you have? The UN “New World Order”, ‘Novus Ordo Seclorum’” as the main slogan of the United Nations from this particular beast’s elite globalist elements.
(No need to print terms like Illuminati, or Skull and Bones, or Masons, etc, because it boils down to Satanism in the two primary forms of Jews and gentiles, and US (American) and UK (Anglo), and all these conspiratorial ‘secret society’ names are very new and add to the confusion, steeped in conspiratorial controversy. Plain and simple, this is the core “seed of satan” in earthly operation; Gen3:15, The UK is the Elitist Zionist Occult base represented since 1694 in the Rothschild Int’l Banking Order)
(Revelation 13:11-13)..And I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon. 12 And it exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in its sight. And it makes the earth and those who dwell in it worship the first wild beast, whose death-stroke got healed. 13 And it performs great signs, so that it should even make fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.
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Statement:
It was a very serious error and more than just a library card. But that is the only official word we have on that. I don’t understand why they are not more forthcoming with their error but that is the way it is and the way the org works. So be it. It makes it very difficult or even impossible for some to put any trust in the earthly head of the JWs.
Response:
We give consideration, and extra honor to those taking the lead, but we do NOT give trust to them, for the bible NEVER has directed human trust to earthling man. So maybe people need to reassess that for good reason, but I do respect the work and understanding I believe God has brought forth about the bible and the future through the “little flock” throughout it’s days since the 12.
If it was not for the apostles, and I believe God too of course, none of this would have been relayed, so we have to appreciate God’s use of imperfect man, for he has used this means to a guaranteed perfect and incorruptible end so to speak, the Kingdom for real.
In fact, God directs trust AWAY from humans, away from nobles (ps146:3), human power (Is31:1; 36:4), idols (Isa42:17), human assumption (Jer7:4), brother (Jer9:4), lies (Jer13:25), man (Jer17:5), riches/works (Jer48:7), position (Eze 16:15), friends (Mic7:5), ourselves (2Cor1:9).
NOT once, does God direct trust to human beings, he even tells humans not to trust in themselves, so how is it a human can direct the trust of others to himself? He should not.
So we understand that even if the apostles erred God is willing to work with that, and indication is that every word of God by holy spirit in the bible has been by Adamic man, Jesus never jotted anything down.
We know David, Moses and others erred, so Jehovah promotes mercy over judgment even by the offering of his Son, after he son offered himself to God, so that really is a forgiveness yet beyond much human understanding.
Since to me the only difference between a presentation at the door, and on the Internet is that this gets recorded, and is not face to face, but it is mind to mind, so a personal ministry is an individuals affirmation of things, not the GB, or WTS, because that is the nature of a ministry, we have personal experiences and opinions but we do not need to let those be divisive, just as a note on writing about various topics. So when I say it should be addressed a little better, and other blowback as well should be addressed IMO, a little more.
I believe in refuting there are styles that can turn one sort of reasoning into a more effective call also show apparent dissension is how many new lights were finally accepted, many things had to be considered for a few years before an adjustment was made, and maybe this dialogue needs to be heard. If it ever got labeled apostate, then that would be completely unreasonable because this is NOT to cause division, but to actually try to recover unity in some who have doubts. I sat this too, because really there is a great body of truth here, and just the fact that it has gotten down to detail analysis and waiting with full knowledge of a few big prophecies to basically break-out real-time, people may get perturbed by some errors, when a huge theme of understanding has been developed and God would have to be with that depth of understanding as in Rev11-13.
We shall see.
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Statement:
But a couple of points have made me think. Firstly, the wild beast may not even represent the UN or it may as well as representing other earthly organizations, ones that have developed well after early last century. You have mentioned a few of these by name in your postings however the org generally does not for some reason.
Response:
The thing that represents the UN, is the “image of the Wildbeast” and that is pretty clear because the UN represents the lamb-like facade that was meant to be a forum that has become an intelligence hub REMOVED from the encumbrances of nation-state governments.
That the wildbeast2 lamb-horn/dragon speaker “breaths” life into it, and is a free roaming wild-beast, shows that while related to the wild-beast1- 7 horned Wildbeast, it too is unencumbered by that beast from the original “sea” of mankind. That it comes from the “earth” is easily seen to mean an established governmental global system BASED in the 7 world powers.
It does not take much argument really, to see this beast2, the lamb-horn/dragon speaker is NOT encumbered by nation-state politics, it is lightweight, independent, it is elite cryptocratic governance, with globalist aims, related to the 7th head of the wild-beast1, but sovereign “8th King” above them in power and flexibility.
The history of the CFR and RIIA “giving breath” and guidance to the League and then the UN, and it’s ties to banks and corporations who also do not answer to nation-state governments nor are they encumbered by them, is known, beyond “conspiracy”.
In fact those international bank and corporate cartels own these these visible governments by debt slavery in admin, commercial development and weapons and protection rackets by owning the highest finance (FED as an example); they are a private independent society of their own sovereign power, eg, global governance in embryo form. They are the engineers of global war, by that elevated position these elites “enjoy”, nations have been chess pieces clearly since WW1, and conveniently that gave rise to the “need” for the League of Nations, WW2, to the UN.
They (Wild-Beast2/False-Prophet) with that image as an 8th king above the ascendancy, but co-existing, shows they influence HEAVILY the wild-beast1, the Dragon, the Wild-beast and the false-prophet ALL speak the same message…
(Revelation 16:13) . . .And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
…and one of those is servitude/shadow-globalism by threat, and or economic and violent (peace like wars, lamb horns) persuasion and coercion. Three expressions is also seen in the call for the League, the UN, and in round 3, global government union of the “one” “new” world under that power, ultimately united Satanic governance attempt, which IMO, will usher in Gog in full.
Believe it, behind the scenes is an ugly tale of intrigue, assassination and satan worship to the degree Satan has given them his Kingdom, they have within them the densest most powerful batch of Satan’s seed. This to even a modest researcher, is obvious, war and money on any scale but especiallt internationally is a dirty, exploitative, lying business.
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Statement:
You have mentioned a few of these by name in your postings however the org generally does not for some reason.
Response:
Since this is my fallible, but personal ministry I have to tie in events and known things in this world which I have as good as seen, into the bible to show it is all very very real.
What I myself considered “conspiracy theory” in 1997, believe it, to those who take the time in research, is way beyond theory, and way beyond conspiracy, because it is done in broad daylight, and they are on record hundreds of times (false-prophet element as well) spouting globalist and elite supremacist views.
There is also the corporate and military/financial intelligence blood-trail in micro-histories that can fill a library with 100 years worth of blood-money and dirt of intrigue, the NWO sloganeers are very “Novus Ordo Seclorum” for real, for a number of centuries, not just decades; This satanic element is extremely active in the highest levels of finance, weapons, technology and the markets they fill with that blood-money .
So, to keep it less confusing and on focus in print, no reason to use all those labels and secret societies, illuminati, zionism, NWO etc, because those are all just occult religious orders and slogans which ALL boil down to, at the top level of those orders, to true Satan worship in it’s highest form, in Satans own guidance system, the “seed of Satan” for real, somewhere is the tie in like at Babel, and no reason to put these various new names and confusion in print when it leads to in-depth, purposeful blackholes by Satan, WHEN it is plainly Satan, when reduced to it’s basic foundation (Dragon), is ALL a form of Satan’s act or worship system (Throne of Wildbeast/Dragon), for global kingdom glory of that world ruler Satan, and his demon heavens governance, a replication of Eph6:12′s “governments and authorities in heavenly places”, on earth in Adamic seed and kingdom of satan, John8:44, in whatever way that means. (We see it, that’s all the detail we need, this is the viper pit, we need to stay out)
So we keep it simple, this just may be the fully integrated hidden system by which the “false-prophet” element speaks globally within the Anglo-American base “headquarters” so to speak, of wildbeast2, as prophets of globalism for wild-beast1, who they invariably direct worship to, for the Dragon.
They ALL represent the big 1:
Satanism, which he ultimately blasphemes in it’s two biblical forms:
“Zion Kingdom” Occult “Jews/Israel” old covenant blasphemy,
and “Nimrod/Mason” Occult “Gentiles” “Kingdom of God” new covenant blasphemy,
truly FULL of blasphemous names, and “diadems”, etc.
We’ll keep it simple, it’s like a Synagogue of Satan, plus no need for a public WTS document to diverge into known perceived conspiratorial territory publicly when we can personally put many of the pieces together simply from the framework of Rev13 and 16, and a little bible knowledge.
They DO know about these things, the WTS are avid researchers as we know, plus Jehovah uses them as his own eyes, as he uses man in that way, and Jehovah has directed man, to what he himself sees, by the 7eye/7horn lamb as well. Interesting in any event.
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Statement:
Secondly, your comments above. Usually when we make an error or do something wrong it has repercussions, occasionally the error multiplies and before we know it we are caught in a web with no way of getting out. How their membership in the UN will affect them in the future is to be seen but with all the publicity and letter writing from enquiring persons to the UN and the withdrawal of the org’s membership would certainly have brought attention to them from the UN itself, this may prove to be a very dangerous thing or otherwise.
Response:
Yes. Certain things have bad blowback, and it could be better alleviated, IMO, by addressing it fully and humbly and apologizing if it hurt anyone’s conscience and why they themselves felt at the time it was advantageous.
I must clarify why I believe they are protectionary, but as you say it may not be advantageous, we shall see, maybe this stuff must at least be presented now and again. The protective stance is because some people do not want to discuss it and improve the overall appeal, as I believe has to be the true motive, they want to attack and shove there personal views in, and that is what has happened to Christendom for 1800 and more years even before it became clear in motive and it is prophetic as well:
(Acts 20:29-30) . . .I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among YOU and will not treat the flock with tenderness, 30 and from among YOU yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves.
So, the GB gets much more divisive antagonism than people who are offering a humble view for reasonable consideration, tactfully, if you know what I mean. But if that view could get in, I believe it has benefits IMO.
1. It would allow taking a different persuasive strategy on the part of the GB, not to allow outside control by coercive compromise that is not the intent, but to use biblical principles to appeal with more mercy to people who may be stumbled more by the inflexibility of certain shepherds in the chain of command, removed from the GB, who first off may have fallen into the snare of the Devil as Paul put it, using more pride than mercy, and also have the limitation of NOT being spirit anointed as that is getting more common as we know, and that in it’s reality does make a difference for reasons we could also see that the apostles derived more power from God, and had a more powerful restraining effect, as Paul even noted above, at some point the guidance would falter, the restraint would be removed, and the apostasy would follow. So, I think there are ways to examine the strategy, and to also examine the argument presented in defense of various teachings, and slight adjustments in reasoning, logic and attitude, can IMO have positive effects.
2. It would allow a nice global truly interactive preaching forum and response center through an official web channel potentially, with a use of the potential of global communication not driven by fear, but by taking that opportunity in an orderly, strategized way. A 365/24/7 point of real-time interaction, to ALL.
What’s the worse that can happen? Upon presentation it may be rejected, and instead of getting all bent out of shape, and thus being hypocritical in the supposed blow-back we are trying to alleviate we create more, then it is nit humility it is pride. I think both sides, IMO, may have become a bit reactionary, expecting this confrontation, when regardless of even the rudeness of attack, it can be addressed tactfully, without emotion, with logic which I know the bible contains in various gems within. Gems which are hard for Adamic man to appreciate in full if you know what I mean.
Again, we shall see. I myself, if I was there, would see ANY attention called to a teaching or situation as a fine opportunity to make a defense to serve as a mild and logical witness, and actually expand the great great potential of the internet for a global witness, from the official channel and direction, by those qualified with faith and experience, and depth and reasonableness, to be unbreakable by any argument of the opposition, it could be quite positive with tact and fresh logic, to recover many, and find new interest, IMO.
(1 Peter 3:15) . . .But sanctify the Christ as Lord in YOUR hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone that demands of YOU a reason for the hope in YOU, but doing so together with a mild temper and deep respect.
(2 Corinthians 10:3-4) . . .For though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage warfare according to [what we are in the] flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things.
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Statement:
A lot of what you are saying is true and you are willing to make more links with what you are reading in the bible than we see in publications, I think it will be some while, if ever, that much of what you do say will be seen in print in any future JW publication. The org seems to be too stuck in its own past to move forward with a clearer picture.
You have already spoken about this but I don’t think the org. would be commending you for your understanding of current events and expressing them on forums without their first officially approving of it and printing it themselves.
Response:
Well the current events which I link to the obvious dual layered rulership is obvious when enough evidence has been presented and that why Satan is known to be highly secretive, yet in his highest layers, are where the reality of his rulership exists:
(Luke 4:6) Satan: to whomever I wish I give it. . .
But there is a price, and the price remains the same:
(Luke 4:7) Satan: do an act of worship before me. . .
To get into the details of his service requirements only needs to go so far: Lies, Theft, Murder, in ever repeating intensifying cycles. Remember we are dealing with a serial murdering angel, and those with him.
So, knowing that the intellectual power he has is related to God in power, NOT purpose we clearly understand that in all Satan’s chaos on earth, there is a solid order guiding it:
(Luke 11:18) . . .So if Satan is also divided against himself, how will his kingdom stand? . . .
In fact it is a united single power center:
(Luke 11:22-23) . . .But when someone stronger than he is comes against him and conquers him, he takes away his full armament in which he was trusting, and he divides out the things he despoiled him of. 23 He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather with me scatters.
A house:
(Matthew 12:29-30) . . .how can anyone invade the house of a strong man and seize his movable goods, unless first he binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30 He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather with me scatters.
So we see at some point Jesus will bind the “strong man” in abyss, and plunder his house on earth and in the heavens.
BUT!
We know much more:
(Ephesians 3:10-11) . . .[This was] to the end that now to the governments and the authorities in the heavenly places there might be made known through the congregation the greatly diversified wisdom of God, 11 according to the eternal purpose that he formed in connection with the Christ, Jesus our Lord. . .
Later in that same scripture we realize also whom God has called to attention of judgment:
(Ephesians 6:11-12) . . .Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.
So the argument is, in Daniel Gabriel was confronted by the Prince of Persia, then later he alluded to the Prince of Greece.
Very telling for it shows that human governance has a corresponding demon governance that must interface where earth meets the heavens so to speak, if you logically see the pattern which must exist.
Satan’s “authorities” and “governments” in the heavenly places are intimately connected with the kings of this world in human form:
(Isaiah 24:21-22) . . .And it must occur in that day that Jehovah will turn his attention upon the army of the height in the height, and upon the kings of the ground upon the ground. 22 And they will certainly be gathered with a gathering as of prisoners into the pit, and be shut up in the dungeon; and after an abundance of days they will be given attention.
So again, why confuse the obvious biblical pattern, with all the chaos Satan builds into the system down here, with spiritual religions of blindness, political religions, and occult world governance by also many many names, when it all boils down to the same thing. The brothers in publication have devoted but one paragraph to them, but we get the gist, and it is a principle in how this world’s rulers at the top, are also in layers of secrecy leading to Satan, unknown below them:
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WTS Publication Quotes Samples
*** w97 6/1 p. 5 Secrecy in the Name of the Lord ***Obviously, anyone considering membership in a secret society would be wise to ascertain its real objectives.
*** w97 6/1 p. 4 Why All the Secrecy? ***But those that have “secrets within secrets,” as the Encyclopædia Britannica expresses it, pose a particular danger. It explains that “by the use of special names, ordeals or revelations,” members of the top ranks manage to “set themselves apart,” thereby stimulating “the lower ranks to the effort necessary to reach the exalted degrees.” The danger inherent in such groups is obvious. Those in the lower echelons may be completely unaware of the real objectives of the organization, not having as yet progressed to that level of revelation.
*** g88 11/8 p. 18 Is Knowledge of God for the Elite Few? ***In some ways the secret society of the Rosicrucians is similar to the Gnostic sects that flourished during the second century C.E. and were a rival of Christianity
*** sh chap. 7 p. 172 par. 19 Taoism and Confucianism—A Search for Heaven’s Way ***By the second century C.E., Taoism became organized. A certain Chang Ling, or Chang Tao-ling, established a Taoist secret society in western China and practiced magical cures and alchemy.
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So the WTS does not have to print things about Satanic orders that are literally in the thousands, when it is all obvious that the Wild-beasts employ a complex mix of hierarchical “pyramids” visibly and invisibly. By Jesus own revelations, and the bible we know Satan does have an existent order, to create disorder, that is how that first principle is observed above, the human house is divided, and it is conquered in that weakness, yet full union in Satan is far worse, so Babel turned Satan’s missile into buckshot to slow the process back into the appointed time frame no sooner, and no later, God is the power.
So the GB are not behind, they have laid a framework of truth as biblical prophetic pattern, and we examine the details in our own ministry. It’s a team effort.
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Claim:
VERY FEW JWS ACTUALLY BELIEVE OR TALK ABOUT THE ILLUMINATI.
YOU ARE A SORT OF A RARITY AND IF HE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE HALL THE ELDERS WOULD NOT TAKE IT LIGHTLY.
Response:
It’s all true history in a few dominant micro-histories of 100-200 years. And no new teachings, just explanation of what picture it is painting since 1914, to simplify it since WW1. No reason for alarm, it’s all true and according to arranging the whole, for the final prophetic fulfillments to Rev16:16, and Satan’s removal as POW.
They avoid them (doominati) in name, because it itself is a rather recent term, and just one of a number of secret societies (not a needed focus). Jesus spoke with them at John8:44 in fake Jew form. They are fake jews, not from Abraham’s seed, but from Satan’s in a nutshell.
I say this, because all my research is topical. Bringing in the NWO, Illuminators, skull and bones, etc, is a waste of time, after a certain point, it’s overkill. This is for personal witness, so that people can see from another, though cohesive point of view, it is alive all around us live and historically documented, two kingdoms have blasphemously identified themselves, one from the old testament time (Judaism), one from the new testament time (Christian).
1. The fake “Jew” elite Neo-Pharisees in “Zion”. (Jew)
2. The fake “Kingdom of God” in the UN. (Gentile)
(working in collusion, like the old faithless Jews and Romans)
As far as Jehovah’s witnesses in the official channel being in the dark, they are not, again, there is no reason to go to deep. The identified the global socialism in the mid 80′s, from a UN quote of one of it’s critics. They, the WTS, ID’d Rothschilds, by showing Israel printing money with one of them on it. Some brothers and sisters are people who have studied this decades, and know much more than I ever claim to, the Satanic order slithers back in time, all we need to see is what prophecy points out, and this is why, these developments with Russia calling US global communists, and themselves global democratic freedom fighters with China, is in a way, ironically funny. IT’S A HUGE SIGNAL.
Some may wonder, who will be king of the north? Will it flip polarity of nature?
Where will Gog AND Magog fit in?
Where is the “true peace and security” cry going to come from? When?
When and how will Babylon the Great be Devoured AND destroyed?
All those events, will combine in a timeline which will begin Great Tribulation, somewhere in it’s evolution, and of course Har-Magedon.
If brothers watch me, then it’s only because these little details, though hugely important as it develops, can also be polemic overkill, what we look for, is the big pattern. In my ministry, and as others know, we personalize it according to the faith and awareness we all uniquely have, we don’t work against the last of the future immortals, we work with them, to thread the final overview in place, to build faith.
The overview? Satan’s Kingdom versus God’s Kingdom for global rulership, is developing FAST. It’s a powder keg, which must blow on earth, then it’s going to blow from Heaven! Daniel 2:44
Either way, the Satanists may release some mayhem, but when Jehovah comes a knocking, mountains will tumble, stones will fall from the sky, the earth will be re-arranged comprehensively for the 1000 reign, and Satan and the demons will be rolled up like a scroll, neutralized and abyss canned for future attention by God.
It’s all adding up, to Jesus coming for his long awaited trophy; Planet Earth.
That’s one thing, even Satan knows, shall occur to a finality.
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United Nations the Ultimate Global Confidence Game?
Q:
But the UN never mentions God and never asserts that rights are granted by God. Its lavishly praised 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights states instead that rights are “granted … by the constitution or by law.” If a law grants rights, another law can cancel them. “
A:
Are we now saying the Declaration of Human Rights is wrong?
They are misled, as scripture shows they would be. “And it misleads those who dwell on the earth, because of the signs that were granted it to perform”
Q:
laws can be make and can be changed by law but the UN doesn’t make the laws or cancel the laws of any country.
The only purpose of the UN is to bring people together to find common grounds for understanding and peace. Granted, they are too weak to accomplish much for they only have the power that the individual countries give them.and most countries are interested in their own wants and needs At least they are trying to do good and this knocking of their efforts can only be from Satan, for he is the only who would profit from the demise of the effort to do good.
A:
Don’t be misled, humans are not the princes of peace, only Jesus is.
Rev13:14
“And it misleads those who dwell on the earth, because of the signs that were granted it to perform in the sight of the wild
beast, while it tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast..”
The “image” of the beast is just that, not a beast, but it’s image. An image is a picture of the beast, it’s representation, it
in itself has no power, but what is given it by the collective powers, the governments in it’s group, who in turn gets power from the dragon, that they share thinking is where the like number of seven heads is obvious. Satan is the guiding mind. When Satan tempted Jesus, what was the big
temptation for which Jesus would have received ALL the kingdoms of the world?
Worship. This remains true today, worship is Satan’s goal.
Q:
I can see the poison that a small group of erroneous men has instilled because they too do not want peace. They don’t want to wait for God they want the end now! They run ahead as usual.
Talk about power, (which is non- existing) of the UN distracts from the power of the WTS. They are masters of the slite of hand.
A:
Is it not the other way around? Jehovah’s witnesses have died for peace, by following Jesus pattern, and God’s laws to the death. There is no point following something, that is already destined to be removed by the only power and kingdom that can bring peace to earth. The UN cannot remove satan, and without him gone, no peace will be found. What will be found, is Satan’s own kingdom, and of course he will claim human rights, that’s what he told Eve, you have the power to be like God, you will not die, you have the right to that fruit. And so Satan is a preacher of human rights that lead to death and destruction, and that’s where all human kingdoms, or collections of them in an image like the UN will lead. Man is incapable of peace with satan around.
That’s why as the scripture shows, after Jesus assumes earthly control from the wild beast, pitching it into everlasting destruction by force, he will next take Satan POW of this the greatest war earth will ever see.
Rev:19:19-20:3
And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army. 20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur. 21 But the rest were killed off with the long sword of the one seated on the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth. And all the birds were filled from the fleshy parts of them.
20 1: And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while.
Without Satan abyssed, all attempts this world makes through imperfect instruments of man, will fail, as the bible plainly shows, they will fail big time. No need to delude people into Satan’s hopium of lies for peace prior to Har-Magedon. Jesus is Prince of peace, and Har-Magedon’s finale is the first day of it, no more human power grubbing, and no more Satanic power either. That’s the first day, of eternal peace.
