Q: Let’s talk about Rev. 7:9-19. Rev. 7:9-16. Is the Great Crowd in Heaven?
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Let’s look at a couple logical details. Where is death present in heaven? No, on earth. Let’s see how Revelation 7 shows the “Great Crowd” must be perfected and refined further through the 1000 years in earth:
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Jesus, the Lamb, has been found worthy in all things pertaining to the will of God, he is perfect, he opens the forgiveness of sins, with the objective of “the last enemy death being brought to nothing” (1Cor15:26), and the removal also of the “one having the ability to cause death” in mankind by Adam’s sin, “that is the Devil”. (Heb2:14)
(Revelation 5:12) . . .“The Lamb that was slaughtered is worthy to receive the power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing.”
(Revelation 5:13-14) . . .: “To the One sitting on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing and the honor and the glory and the might forever and ever.” 14 And the four living creatures went saying: “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
(Revelation 7:10) . . .“Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
So, to get to that deathless state, mankind must be changed from Adamic flesh and it’s death and sin “dwelling” in that Adamic flesh:
(Romans 7:17) . . .But now the one working it out is no longer I, but sin that resides in me.
(Romans 7:20) . . .If, now, what I do not wish is what I do, the one working it out is no longer I, but the sin dwelling in me.
Because through the behaviors of sin in man, the flesh has an indwelling of Satan’s death to mankind, through that flesh of Adam, leavened and imperfect:
(Romans 8:3) . . .it was weak through the flesh, God, by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and concerning sin, condemned sin in the flesh…
Jesus was only in human likeness, his Last Adamic flesh, his body, is sinless, and perfect, as Adam’s was BEFORE he sinned. That “bread of heaven” has no use in heaven, for heaven is deathless and sinless. Death must be removed as king, as the last enemy, where alone it rules, here on earth, through Adamic sin, in human beings. The heavenly brothers of Jesus are immortal (indestructible life) and incorruptible, they CANNOT ever sin. They must act as priests, to remove death FULLY from the human realm, in the 1000 year reigh of the King Jesus, who must remove this last king:
(Romans 5:21) . . .sin ruled as king with death. . .
(Romans 6:12) . . .Therefore do not let sin continue to rule as king in YOUR mortal bodies that YOU should obey their desires.
(Romans 6:17-18) 17 But thanks to God that YOU were the slaves of sin but YOU became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which YOU were handed over. 18 Yes, since YOU were set free from sin, YOU became slaves to righteousness.
So this righteousness which does away with the “desire of the world”, and the “desire of the eyes”, the desire of the world which is passing away, must have a replacement with life in view, rather than the former ways of man, with death in view. It will take divine guidance in that 1000 year period over the fleshly creation, which God blessed as good, previous to the curse of Adam, which curse God lifts and causes the blessing to “the nations of the earth” (Gen22:18) by the seed promised and sworn to come through Abraham, to earths “families of the ground” (Gen12:3)
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(Revelation 7:17) . . .because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.”
(Revelation 14:1) . . .And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. . .
(Revelation 21:22) . . .And I did not see a temple in it, for Jehovah God the Almighty is its temple, also the Lamb [is].
As from the above, the Lamb’s fulfillment in prophecy is to ruling as King, and (Phil2:9-11**) in it’s final fulfillment where all knees will bend to him, as it has been subjected to Jesus from God, with LIFE on EARTH in view, because Heaven already has life, and earth is where it is not present, but death is king, and death must be removed for God’s will to be done here, endless life, as it is in heaven, life’s source God.
(Revelation 21:27) . . .only those written in the Lamb’s scroll of life [will].
The Lamb is the shepherd which leads the earthly families of all the earthly group, and all the post-resurrection dead to life, by being the Wonderful Counselor, and the earth must be filled with life, by being filled with new knowledge to the full:
(Isaiah 11:9) . . .They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in all my holy mountain; because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea.
The Prince of Peace, must wage the final war, deliver the Great Crowd through it, and remove dissenters against his rulership. This takes time, as does the rest, one day at a time.
**(Philippians 2:9-11) . . .For this very reason also God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every [other] name, 10 so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, 11 and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
Then death can be brought to nothing
(1 Corinthians 15:24-28) 24 Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing…. But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.
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